SPEAKER_01 0:00

All right. All right. Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of the detox experience. I am here today with the lovely Dr. Shereen Toscano. Super excited for the conversation. How are you doing today, Dr. Shereen?

SPEAKER_00 0:12

I'm doing fantastic, Jeff. Thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it. I know you and I have had a lot of conversations about health and wellness, about your products, and it's been quite a joy to pick your brain.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Yeah, well, it's it's we always you know have some good ideas when we bounce things back up back uh you know uh off each other. So I think we probably have enough content. We would have had enough content for about 10 podcast episodes if we were just recording everything. But you know, here we are here we are officially, so now we can uh you know share our our conversations with with the world. So I think it'll be good.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Yeah. So we met we met, it was not quite a year ago, but we were at um that conference in San Diego. And um Yeah, so we've kind of been in touch ever since. And we're into a lot of the same things, the biohacking and the health and and all sorts of stuff that people are interested in. So why don't you just kind of start by telling everyone a little bit about your backstory and you know your journey into wellness and how you got to where you are today?

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Okay, yeah. I mean, I guess we could just go all the way back to my ancestors, really, where health and wellness has kind of just been ingrained into my DNA and into my life before I even knew anything about it or even existed. So my great-grandpa was a holistic healer in Ecuador, and people would come from all over South America to see him when the doctors told them there was nothing else that they could do for them. So he would put them into the mud, into the earth, and um have them stay there in the sun, in the mud, in the earth for like eight hours a day, um, make tinctures from herbs that he grew, and he would use different metals that he basically like charged in the sun and put onto their bodies. And uh my dad used to work there over the summers, and he told me stories about tumors that he would see shrink before his eyes over a matter of a few days. And, you know, just like saving these people's lives by reconnecting them with the best healer, which is nature, right? So I think like that's the biggest thing that I am drawn to is the nature aspect of healing and our really inherent and an um internal healer, which is you know, our own bodies that were created to be able to heal themselves. So my grandma, his daughter, um was a nurse, and pretty much my entire family is full of healers, and even the ones that are not working professionally as a healer are like healers in their own right, too. So it was kind of destined for me.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Yeah. So when did kind of when did you so decide to like professionally turn into the wellness thing? Because I know you have a background also in like athletics.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Yes. So I have a background in kind of a few different things that really have contributed to the niche that I'm in now. So I'm in the sports and entertainment um zone, as you know. I treat a lot of NBA players, um, professional athletes from all different genres, um and aspiring athletes, which actually are my favorite, like the elite high school athletes or the aspiring pro athletes, um, to be able to watch their transformation within a few months of regular uh work with me is like the biggest reward. Um how I got into this space, like specifically, is I've played basketball my entire life and I played with mostly with men. I played with women in high school and in college, and I decided I was never gonna play with women again, and and then the pandemic happened, and I was cheating um at a world piece at that time, and he has this app called X versus X. And at that time, there was nowhere to play, all the gyms were closed and everything, you know, during the shutdown. And so I was hosting these games for him and his organization, and I saw the female pro division, semi-pro division, and I was like, I could hoop with them. And then I started playing with them, and then that next season I got drafted by the Women's Universal Basketball Association, which is a FIBA certified pro league. So, and I've been playing in semi-pro leagues for years. Um, so yeah, like that kind of I had already kind of had a network of pro players just like playing in the valley for so many years. Um but that kind of like set me to the next level where I had a little bit more clout behind who I was and my name and everything like that. So it it it put me into that sports entertainment world like just in the right time. And I treated a few different people, and then just the word of mouth kind of took off, and then I was um team doc for big three team, and um yeah, it was just things just kept rolling from there, and then I became a consultant for different companies, like a shoe company, which I helped to make um a barefoot shoe that now um have we have some MBA players that wear it and um WMB players and yeah, different companies like wellness companies um that would you know pay me a monthly stipend to be able to connect them with my um network and also do like high-level trade shows so I could speak to people about different products that would help them in their lives. But going back to the origin, um I was a single mom. I was coaching high school varsity and a makeup artist at Mac Cosmetics in the Glendale Galleria. And um my daughter was attending my high school that I went to where I was coaching basketball is K through 12. So she was in kindergarten. And I got a call on that Friday or on that Thursday, right before her graduation, saying if you don't pay your balance of $1,000 by tomorrow, 1 p.m., your daughter will not be able to walk with um her students, the other students. And I just melted, like I didn't know what to do. I was devastated. That was really the only thing at that time that I was asking their dad to pay for. Um, which I might add, like now he definitely contributes a lot to our kids. Um, but at that time he really wasn't on that level yet. So um yeah, I didn't know where I was gonna come up with a thousand dollars. I literally had like $17 in my account and always praying that I didn't overdraw. And um, you know, it was just one more thing on my plate as a single mom that I really didn't need to have at that moment. So that moment was just like kind of a rock bottom where I realized I had a pretty nice life that my dad provided to me, and I can't provide that by myself for my kids. So I'm gonna have to do something different, and so I decided to go back to school to become a nurse. Um, I figured that would be a really great job for a single mom. And you know, at that time I still was kind of naive as to how the whole medical system worked and everything. Um, I never was really a part of it. I hardly ever went to the doctor. Um I just really respected doctors, but I I had no idea like really the extent of the lack of autonomy or that that they actually had. So I was really excited, but not that excited because I actually thought, okay, I'm gonna do this because this is a way for me to work in healthcare and only work three days a week and make the salary of somebody working at least five days a week or more, and spend as much time with my kids as possible. So I moved to New Mexico where my girl's dad's parents lived, and they were semi-retired, so they actually um would be able to help me with the kids while I was in nursing school. And so I went to the University of New Mexico and um I had a 4.5 GPA that semester, and I saw a flyer that said, I'm sorry, 4.05. 4.5 is crazy. That's actually what my daughter, uh Christina, had in high school, and she was valedictorium, but that's crazy. No, 4.05, which as you know, a single mom going back to school is that I I was super proud of that. And so I was kind of filling myself and I was like, okay, let me just go see. I saw this flyer. It said, What would you have to do to become an MD? So I went to that meeting, I left that meeting saying, forget nursing, I'm gonna be a doctor. And I went to change my major. Um, and my counselor was like, You're crazy, you're not gonna be biochem. You're not gonna do biochem. Um, you're gonna do biology or sociology or psychology, and you're gonna really pad your grades so that you have a great shot of getting into medical school. That's what everybody does. And that was the first red flag because I was like, wait a minute, um, I want to be a doctor, so I have to know how the body works. So I need to be a biochem major so that I can learn how the body works. And she was like, No, sweetheart, like that is the hardest major that you can take, and and I don't think that's a good idea. And I was just thought to myself, if people are going into medical school and they can't do biochem major, I I really don't feel like they deserve to be in medical school or they're equipped to go into medical school, right? You're you're basically going into medical school like so naive that you could be told anything. So I said, no, I'm doing biochem. And it was very, very hard, super, super hard. I mean, she was absolutely right, but I got really good grades and I did it. And so um I had to take a semester off of school to make money to continue going to school. So I decided to go work at Lexus selling cars, never sold cars in my life, but I decided I love since I loved cars, then I knew pretty much every make a model and about cars and stuff. Like I could just walk into the Lexus dealership and just ask for a job and they would give it to me. So that's what I did. And they were like, no, um, sorry, but maybe try like Honda or try like Nissan, or you know, people usually get promoted to Lexus, like you've never done this before. Like, I don't know if you know what it entails, it's a lot of work. Like, I don't think you're respecting this profession very much. And I'm like, I'm really good at sales, I love cars, I could do this. Give me a chance. And they were like, okay, well, we'll we'll get back to you, we'll think about it, whatever. Okay, so I left. I didn't hear from them for a week, so I baked some cookies and I popped in. I was like, hi, I just wanted to let you guys know that I still really want this job and I'm gonna be really good at it, I promise you. And then I would just leave, right? And then I did that for about three weeks. And the last time I dropped off the cookies, they're like, Okay, okay, okay, we can see that you're very persistent, you're not gonna give up on this, which is actually a really good quality in a salesperson. So we're gonna give you a trial, we're gonna give you a job. So I became the number one salesperson on the floor, and um, for that semester, I made a lot of money that I was able to like take and go back to school. I had so many repeat customers, like people buying multiple cars from me, sending me all of their family, like because I wasn't salesy and I just really wanted to help people, they loved it, right? So um it was really cool. And the second couple that I sold a car to, the husband was like this golden retriever, and um the woman was like the black cat, right? She was really intimidating, she was very tall and beautiful and slim, and with dark hair, and this guy was like kind of you know, tall and jolly and floppy and blonde hair, so it was like a perfect uh black cat and like Labrador Golden Retriever couple that we hear about. And I had just started, that was my first week, like maybe like my third day on the job, right? And I was like uh very slow, and I was like, Well, if I don't know anything, I just I promise you I will find it out, but I'm new and I'm still learning, so please bear with me, but I will do everything I can to help you. And they came back a month later to buy another car from me. And at that point, I already knew what I was doing, and I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, saying everything. And then um, the wife, she was like, I just want to stop you right there. And I was like, Oh my god, what did I do? She was like, I just want to let you know how impressed I am with how much you've progressed in just one month's time at this job. We will do whatever we can to help you get into medical school. The wife was the dean of admissions to the medical school that I was planning to go to at University of New Mexico, and the husband was the head of the PA program. So through them, I was able to shadow the entire hospital. Um then there's the psych department, right? Which is a little bit separate. And some girl at a like mutual friend's birthday party that I'd never met before, she kept looking at me all night, like looking at me, smiling, looking at me, smiling, looking at me smiling. She had such a friendly face. And finally she came up to me, she's like, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a weirdo, but do you model? And I was like, Oh, I think I was like 31 at that time, or yeah, I think I was like 31. She's like, Do you model? And I was like, I used to, I don't anymore. Um, she's like, I just my model canceled for tomorrow's shoot. I'm a photographer, and I have this jewelry shoot that I need to do. And I was wondering if you would like to step in. I can't pay you, but I can give you the jewelry. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I have to study for XYZ, I have to take care of my kids, I have to do this, like, there's no way, like, I don't have time. And something in my gut was just like, do it. So I was like, okay, I'll do it. It turns out that that was just her side hustle, and she's actually she was a nurse in the psych unit and so in the psych ER. So I got to shadow the entire psych department because of her, because I said yes to somebody asking me to do something. And so I felt like, you know, everything was just so aligned. Like God just like really set my path. Um, and being able to shadow every department in the hospital, I was able to figure out that I did not want to be an MD. That being in the hospital was probably like the worst place in the world that I could be, and that I wanted nothing to do with our medical system in that way. So I had already sacrificed so many, like, so much time with my kids, money, um, just like blood, sweat, and tears to like get to this point, you know. And so this was 2013, and I tried to do one more semester, and I was almost done about to get ready to for my application into school, and I had everything. And I was like, no, this is not for me. I can't do this. So I came, I left and I came back home. And I was at Christmas, and I was really like going through it. I went back to doing makeup and I had no idea what I was gonna do with my life. Um, one of my cousins was like, I'm in chiropractic school. I think that you would really, really love it. And I had only gone to a chiropractor, two chiropractors in my whole life at that point, but I had no idea like what our total total scope of practice was and how we could really help people. But I remember I felt really good um with the second person. The first person I kind of had a bad experience. And so um I decided to check it out. And then I applied and I got in and I tried my best in a short period of time to make it that year into that program. Um but I couldn't find any place that I could afford to rent with my kids that was like in a dis school district that was really good. And so I decided to just try the next year instead. So I worked in makeup one more year and I was um managing one of the stores in the mall and just like kind of taking a break and like really thinking about things at that point. I was also I had also made my own kind of like skincare line and my own natural deodorant and things like that, and so that was where the skincare or where like the makeup and like the uh health and wellness kind of merged at that point. So this is what I always tell everybody like my pathway was so unconventional that it helped me be better at what I do now because I was able to take all the experiences from everything else that I had done in my life at that point. I was also older. I also was able to appreciate education more because I realized the impact that it would have on my life and on my kids' lives. So I feel like that was the best thing that I could have done. Maybe like the young me, if I had gone into this profession when I was younger, it just wouldn't be the same. And so I'm very thankful because everybody always asks me, like, how did you do that with small kids? Um, because when I got into chiropractic school, um, one of my professors was like, Okay, so you have two small kids, you drive an hour and a half each way. Because by that point, since I'd put my kids into the school there, I wasn't gonna take them out of school again. I had just moved them from New Mexico, so I'd already taken them out of their schools that they loved with all their friends that they loved, and brought them back to LA where people are not as nice and in a new school where they didn't really make that many friends yet. And, you know, like they were very sheltered and grew up in the church and things like that. And so moving to LA where things are a little bit different and people are a little bit more harsh and not as like family-oriented, not as like faith-based and stuff. So they had a little harder time adapting and making friends and everything. Um, they had to harden up a little bit, you know. And so I wasn't about to take them out of school again and put them into a new school when they had just gotten established that year. So I decided to drive an hour and a half each way to school. And that professor was like, you're not gonna make it through this program. I'm sorry to tell you that. And that was probably the best thing that he could ever tell me because that's what I thrive off of. I love, I've always been the underdog in situations. And I said, watch me. And I graduated with honors and I walked right past him and just smiled and looked at him. Like it was such actually, it was a really good feeling when he told me you're not gonna make it through this program because it was that at that point where this fire just lit inside of me, and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna dominate this program, like I'm not just gonna make it through, you know. So, so yeah, um I um graduated and I well actually I got the number one um internship in our school. I was interning with this doctor in Beverly Hills, and he treated a lot of celebrities and like millionaires, mostly like millionaires and billionaires and things like that. Not a not actually a lot of athletes. And then when he did like have some athletes come in, like he really like let me work with them a lot and things like that. But a little bit different demographic than what I work with now. But he was amazing to learn from. He was very like Mr. Miyagi ish, you know, like he wouldn't give me the answer, he would ask me another question that. Prompt me to have to research and figure out the answer on my own. So he really opened up a whole new world for me, which when I was in chiropractic school, I'm like something is missing. Like there's just something missing. So he introduced me to fascia. Um so this was 2016, 2017. Um yeah, so he introduced me to the whole new world of fascia, which at that time it wasn't really like this well-known thing that people know now, you know, like they hadn't even discovered that um it was like a neuromesh network that communicated. Like it was presumed, but it wasn't actually proven or anything like that. So it was amazing. Like I felt like I had this um upper hand into my education that like my peers didn't really get once again, which I feel like this path was set for me ahead of time, and I was very um blessed with that. And so I would teach it to my friends and whatever I learned, I would show them um because it's always been about educating and empowering people. Like that's the coach in me, right? So there's there's the basketball coach side. Like I'm a coach. So when people come and see me, I'm not just doing something to them and they're playing a passive role. I'm literally teaching them the whole time about how their body works, um, teaching them how they can fix their body themselves, educating and empowering them to take control of their health so that they're not dependent on any other doctor, not just me, but like giving them things that they can do for themselves and and like education that they could take to their other doctors as well, so that they're not just blindly following whatever pharmaceutical companies are promoting as you know the gold standard of what's best for somebody.

unknown 24:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

So yeah, that's that's amazing. I mean, and and you know, doctor means teacher. So I think it's exactly it's we've kind of in society and with the mainstream medical system have gotten away from that. And it's more like just do what I say and just keep coming back, and you don't have to learn anything or take any personal responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Um, and then you know, if anything, if anything goes wrong, it's just they just blame it on genetics or it was going to happen anyway. There's nothing you can do about it. But the good news is we've got medications to, you know, to help you out, just keep coming back. So that's great that you're you know, you've you've really taken on that more traditional, you know, the definition of doctor, and you've, you know, your your coaching experience has helped you with that because you know, coaches and doctors are kind of, you know, there's a lot of similarities there with you know, teaching and guiding people. So well, thank you for all that background. So that's a lot of information. That was quite the journey. And I mean, just from just you know, um, just gin, gin, gin, gin, your genealogy and just you know, how God has just opened up this path to you. And it's like it wasn't a straight line, kind of like you said, it's like there's there's all these different different um twists and turns, but it's like as the doors were opening, God was opening doors for you, you were walking through them, and then those doors were leading to great things. So I always I I that's kind of how I live my life too. I think it's pretty cool. It's just like wait for opportunities to arise, like for God to open doors, walk through them. You don't really know what's going to be through them, but you have to walk through them to find out, and then it's always, you know, it's worth it. So sometimes we like to just stay kind of in our comfort zone and just in the main hallway. But it's like we need to go through those doors that as God's open God opens them up, and then great things happen. So yeah, I think that was pretty cool. Cool story. I've got three comments or three questions, I guess. Question number one is what were what were the cookies? What type of cookies did you make for the Luxus dealer? The cookies of persuasion.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Well, okay. Now I have like a little bit different sense of what's delicious and what's not delicious, but they were literally the tub of the pre uh mixed dough from Costco of the Nestle Tollhouse chocolate chip cookies.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

What's the thought that counts? All right. So those were the cookies of persuasion and they worked. And then tests second thing. Okay, you mentioned like treating like or working with Ron Art or um meta world piece. Yeah, I mean, how is that? Because I used to watch him play when he was before the name, you know, Ron Artest was playing in the NBA for the Bulls and other teams. And I remember he was an interesting guy because I think he either retired or took time off at one point to record music, and just he had a lot of stuff going on. So what just you know, is he is he as interesting as I think he is?

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Yeah, he's he's a great guy, like he's a super great guy. Um he it he does have his hand in a lot of different things, which is amazing, it's beautiful. Um, he's becoming or he has become quite the businessman. Um and he's one of those people that I think is a constant evolver, like major evolver, you know. So um, yeah, he's he's a great guy. I haven't spoken to him in a while, but um but yeah, he's he's an awesome guy. He's he's so multifaceted, like that's really what he is. And I think a lot of people take him for, you know, just like the whatever you know happened before uh with the what is it called? The not the rumble at the palace. What was it what was it called? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_01 27:39

When you with the fan, the incident?

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Yeah, the big fight that broke out.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

I was actually watching that live. You were yeah, because I was yeah, I was watching that live. I used to watch a lot of basketball, but yeah, there was an incident, but yeah, then yeah, he he made some changes anyway. We don't need to go into that, but it was just uh I was just curious because I was familiar with him. But yeah, so okay, last thing I wanted to mention. You said so initially with the story you started, it was your grandfather in Ecuador that was my great grandpa, great great grandpa, okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Yeah, and he actually lived until like 101.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Wow. So yeah, he was it was working the stuff he was doing for himself and for others. So you mentioned like the net just natural stuff, right? The the the um clays and all the stuff, and people were getting better. One of the things you mentioned I wanted to dive into because I'm curious, you said he would take metal metals and charge them in the sun and put them on people. What what was that all about?

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Yeah, so he would use platinum, copper, and silver and gold. And um this I I don't know exactly like how he would do it because my aunts they just told me about it actually um a few weeks ago when so every Sunday, so all my family is super young, like my aunts are all in their 70s, like mid to late 70s, um, and uncles, and they're playing tennis every weekend, like, and then we go to lunch after. So we play tennis and then we go to lunch, and you would never guess their age, like everybody is just so young. Um, but they told me, yeah, he used to have this belt and he would have like these pieces of metal in it, and he would like leave it in the sun to charge on the earth, and then he would put the metal onto people um in certain places, and I don't know how it worked, but I was very curious, and it's crazy because I recently um started using copper as like a scraping tool, like a massage, like a fascial like scraping tool tool. Um and it was just something that was just like in me, like said to do. And if I could do gold, I would do gold, but then it's probably a lot of money to get like a piece like that, right? So um yeah, so I was really interested, interesting when they told me that because I was telling them about the copper thing that I was using that I bought from Home Depot. Um it's just like a plumbing, like two pieces of like a plumbing thing, and I just put it together and now I use that to put over people's injuries or to scrape them.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Well, it's interesting because why I'm asking is because we talked maybe a couple months ago about some of the new technology that we're coming out with here at Zelate Labs, and it's a lot of it is this quantum, this new quantum tech.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

How a lot of it works basically, and there's really very limited information on the internet. I don't even I haven't been able to find find any information on the internet because um it's just it's new, it's just a little bit different because quantum is just kind of uh anything can mean quantum. So a lot of companies are like, oh, this is quantum, this is quantum. It's like, well, I mean, like the earth is emitting quantum energy, the sun, so people are like, oh, this, you know, crystals, it's quantum. It's like, yes, but that's not what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

There's this new quantum tech where there's these huge chambers, and you can put things in them and charge them, and like charge them to the point where they start emitting like a super high level of quantum energy. And one of the things that charges the best and emits the highest level of quantum energy is metal. So it's super interesting. You mentioned putting even metal in the sun and like kind of charging it, and then it emits more energy because traditionally a lot of people know that you can put like crystals and different healing stones in the sun, and it kind of energizes them, and then they can accumulate kind of negative energies, whether it's all sorts of things, even like Wi-Fi, you know, can accumulate energies, then you want to recharge them or cleanse them in the sun. But there's like technology now that just like supercharges stuff, and like there's these super big fancy chambers that hits them with like waves and lights and all sorts of crazy stuff. But you can put metal, you can put stones, and there's different things, there's different settings for the different elements that go in, and you charge them, and then it adds like a quantum field, and then they're like that is the quantum technology that mostly it's just pendants. So most of the companies that have this technology are just selling like quantum pendants and things that are, you know, like for biofuel protection, like you know, different. I've got some stuff like in front of me, but it's like you know, just biofold bracelets and that kind of stuff, and they go in the quantum chamber and they're emitting the energy. So, what um what we've done is develop like a whole mat. So the zeo mat, and it's probably going to be out by the time this podcast releases because they're already now, they're just not on the website. But we've got the zeo wrap and the zeal mat, and it's just this big there, there's two versions. One is all shungite, and the other one is just tourmaline and germanium stones, but those get charged, and then you lay on it and it's like this huge quantum energy generated.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

Oh, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

So it's like imagine the power of some of these little you know, battlefield bracelets and pendants that some people can even feel. It's like that times you know, thousands of times like the weight and the power, and you're just laying on it. So, like our mat is not to like turn this into a mat promotion, but it's the zero. No, please, it's got the like so the the shungite one is just thousands of little shungite pebbles all throughout the mat, which is super cool. And then those are charged, so you're getting the quantum shungite basically, and then it also has the foreign for red heat and the PEMF. So it's like a combo therapy, but it it's like a modified version of some of the other ones on the market, but the other ones don't have the quantum and they don't have the shungite.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

So I need that because moving back from Hawaii, I feel myself like oxidizing on the daily.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

It's and we just got so we're doing so. The reason one of the reasons we haven't launched it all yet is because and we've had this for a couple months, like we've got all this new tech, it's just like we're trying to figure out how to roll it out. We're trying to get more data uh beforehand. So we've been working with um some people like a thermography company and sending off stuff to them, and they're like sending us data. So actually, they just sent me the data today, right before this interview for the mat, where they did a baseline uh thermograph of like the torso, and you know, there was quite a bit of like uh modeling and just um like inflammation spots throughout the throughout the stomach area.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

And then the it was the guy who did this first one. He laid on um the mat, turned off, just laid on it for 45 minutes, and then did another thermograph, sent that picture, and like almost all the inflammation was gone. So the reason and and last week he did uh they did the test on the wrap, so just around the torso. Same, it was 30 minutes around the torso and before and after, and that reduced almost all the inflammation as well. So the reason I'm having him do that is because it's showing the power of the quantum technology because it's not plugged in and it's not turned on, and it's still reducing the inflammation. And it'll work, I mean, when you plug it in and get the farm for red and PEMF, it's gonna work even better.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

So yeah, it's so it's pretty, they were actually really impressed because they didn't really think it was gonna work. But they're like, wow, this like this thing, because I've also been sending them like uh you know charged uh uh copper rounds and charged silver rounds and just just things that are not necessarily innately like healing or protective, and then like they're testing those for like EMF mitigation and things, and like it's actually protecting against EMF you know radiation damage. And they're like, what is going on here? So um, because one of the things that we're releasing is like an EMF card. So this is like the EMF structuring card I designed, and this doesn't have the quantum technology, this is a different technology.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Um, we're we're also putting it in the quantum charger, but it's you can't just put anything in the quantum charger, it has to be specific elements and specific settings. But this came back and it was um pretty much prevented all the radiation damage from cell phones. So more information on that later, but we've got thermographic images of all this stuff, so it's pretty cool. And um anyway, so not to derail it. I just thought charging methods.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

No, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

It's just like it's like because what I always like to do is like with my companies is take like solutions from nature and then supercharge them by science. So it's like I feel like God's given us all this great stuff, and like through modern technology, we can enhance the natural properties of things. Like we don't have to modify them to the point where they're not natural, but it's like there's the concepts of putting things in the sun. And I've never even heard of putting metal in the sun, but apparently it's been you know done like your great-grandpa. And then it's like there's just now these chambers that can just supercharge that. So it's it's pretty cool. So, anyway, that's all to come. Um, that's all gonna probably be on the website at some point, all this new tech. And otherwise, people can email because it's all it's all available, it's just a matter of all the business stuff of getting it on the site and figuring everything out and all the studies. But yeah, pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

So that's amazing. And you know, that's what what I really loved about you when we met, Jeff, was the like your integrity and your level of like to strive for excellence in your products and um you know, take going the next level of testing and refining and making sure that the product that you give is the best product on the market, and like having that intense strive for excellence and to be the best. Like I love that. You know, that's unfortunately it's usually not an American um trait. So I was I was very, very happy when I when you had that fire in you for that because I was like, you know, this is somebody who cares about the people and cares about the health aspect, cares about the quality of the product and not just about, you know, like their profit or the bottom line, or even just making it good enough. Like I know, like you want your things to be the absolute best that that there could be, and you want to be um proud, and it's something that you would, you know, want to give to yourself or maybe you know, like your future children, or something, like something that you would feel is the best absolute thing that you could give to to you or somebody you love, you want to give that to everybody. And I just think that that's such a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Well, thank you. It's it's I do I do feel like it's I do get frustrated with the market in general, where it's like profits over people, and a lot of these, it's just marketing companies, and they're like, What who who can we take advantage of? And these people are suffering, let's take advantage of them. And I that's not all like that, but sometimes it is, and it's just it irritates me. So, like for me, it's like I don't really like selling just random stuff. Like, I don't like just buying and reselling because it's like that's what most companies do, and that's totally fine. I mean, that's fantastic. It gets the word out, it gets good products on the market, but it's like if someone else can do it better, I'm usually like, well, let's just let them do it better. So, what I like to do is I like to take the best possible things out there and then in some way make them even better, right? So it's like, so it's like with, you know, like like these, you know, bile filled bracelets. It's like these are the new ones. These are actually pretty sweet, but naturally they've got tourmaline, germanium, natural elements to help, you know, balance and ground you. But then I'm like, all right, this is cool. I had them write love on it because I'm like, that's better than a logo. So I put the love thing on. But then I'm like, I'm like, that's still it's still not going to be that much better than a lot of the other biofilled bracelets on the market. So I'm like, all right, let's put this in the quantum charger. And you can charge both silicone and metal and stone. So I've it's it's in there for multiple. And this this chamber, by the way, it's not like you just put it in and it comes out, it's four days. Like you charge stuff for four days straight, and it's just continuously blasting it with frequencies and light. It's crazy. So both the silicone is charged and the metal and the stone elements are all charged. So you're getting the natural grounding effect of the you know, the minerals and whatever, but then you're getting the quantum aspect as well. So I'm just trying to take it's like the shungite, and then I'll stop talking about my new stuff.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

This no, tell me all about it, please. Everyone needs to know.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Like shungite's pretty cool, like if people know what it is, right? So this is noble shungite. This comes from Russia, where like the big mine is of uh Corellia, Russia. So I take like this on its own is cool, but this goes in the chamber. So now we have quantum charged shungite pendants, and then I've got these little like bowls. This is like a bowl full of like quantum shungite thing. I don't know. Like I'm just taking everything that I like and then I'm putting it in, you know, the quantum chamber and making it even better. So that's that's what's like so. Our technology is like Zo vibe QRT, Zo vibe quantum resistance tech. We're just trying to take the best stuff, add the quantum aspect of it. So yes, yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting, but it when we met, I was kind of frustrated, not with you, but like at that time, because one of the main reasons I went to that conference was to try to try to figure out this quantum technology.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Because I had no idea how it worked, because I had bought this $30,000 quantum bed, and I I went to the manufacturing facility of this bed and like tried to figure it out. They wouldn't tell me anything. And like I went to the um to the conference and like no one was telling me anything really about how this tech worked. And then it was like a week later that I figured it out. I'm like, okay. So it like with the chamber, because I just could not understand like this bed, like how it was emitting this quantum energy.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

Because it's like, well, the you know, the the quantum antennas or whatever inside the metal. Like, what are you talking about? Like inside the so basically they just put this big thing in this chamber and then it's emitting this incredible quantum energy. And I'm like, that's pretty cool. Like it's it's 30 grand though. So I was like, how can I make this 90% cheaper and make it accessible to me?

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

That's where the Zomat, right? Three grand. So it's literally 90% cheaper. That was my goal, making it at home version. So anyway, that's the tech stuff. That's that's to come. I've just been excited. That's what I've been thinking about because I've been, you know, it's it's been coming in anyway. So back to you. That's what people want to hear about, not from me.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

No, well, I'm so excited about all of your new tech, and I can't wait to use it because I just moved into a new place. You know, I just moved back from Hawaii where all the quantum was free. And now the original quantum. Yeah, the original quantum. And now I'm I'm back here where everything is Wi-Fi and 5G. It's so much. It's so much. And um, I moved into a new place, and as you know, right, but when I moved to Hawaii, I got rid of all of my possessions. I either gave them away or sold them for super cheap. Not even a spoon, a towel, like nothing that I had coming back. So I would really love to make like your your stuff um part of my new home.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good to me. It's it's all over, it's it's a bit it's all over my house. It's they're they're everywhere. But I I've been laying on the mat like every night, like to help me go to sleep. And then I've been laying on it also in the afternoon. It's just, it's, it is really relaxing. I actually like it even better than the bed, but I'm probably I'm probably biased, but you know, it's a lot of the people at my like at my office, I've got the two beds, two of the quantum beds, and then two mats set up, one of the Shungaite ones and one of the Tourmaline Germanium. And most people actually like the mats better because one, it's more comfortable. You're not laying on a huge piece of metal, and it's like it's a more even distribution of the heat with the farm for it. And like people, like someone just came in uh two days ago, and she had used the bed twice. She came from out of town, but she had used the bed and got like really good results, and she was on the mat and she loved it. She said she can like feel the quantum energy. I can't, I can't feel it. Like, I'm not that sensitive, but some people can like feel it even.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

So oh, I'm so excited because I can feel it. Yeah, I can feel everything.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

Yeah, like my so what someone who works for me, he put the wrap around his um like a belt slash wrap. I call it the Zo wrap, but it's like a belt basically. And you can he wrapped it around his stomach, and it was like all sorts of stuff started going on. Like he was like, he he was like having all this gas and like all this stuff. He was like, This is crazy, and like it was weird, but he was like, This is incredible. So then he someone else went on it last night. Uh his girlfriend, and she fell asleep and she had had like a dream, like immediately, like in a 15-minute session. And like, what is going on here? So it's it's pretty cool, but um, super excited about it. So, anyway, I'm back I'm back talking about it. So, back to you so excited about it. So, all right, we met. You you got all sorts of stuff uh stuff going on, you're working with athletes, the chiropractic, um, biopacking, everything else. What um I guess we should talk about Zocharge. That's supposed to be the point of this podcast. Yeah, haven't even talked about it yet. So, yeah, what what are your experiences? What have your experiences been with Zocharge up to this point?

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Oh, the Zocharge has been amazing for me. Um, when I very first started taking it, and when we talked about this, that I had really crazy nightmares for like the first at least three nights. Um, nightmares that reminded me of the nightmares that I had when I was pregnant with my first daughter Mariah. So like scary, like weird stuff. Um so yeah, I don't know if it was like stuff from back then leaving my body in some way, or you know, like I I don't know. We we speculated on what it could be, but that it was just something was being purged, and so that was awesome. Um, I sleep much better if I remember to take it before bed. Um I'm kind of I was telling Alexis that I'm kind of I have a problem with a little gray expensive powder now. Like so yeah, I'm kind of hooked. Um I have been telling everybody about it. I have like my family all on it, aunts and uncles, and mom and best friends, and everybody, you know, and then I bought a bunch to keep at the clinic, and even I share my space with my best friend from chiropractic school, Dr. Chris, and he's even like selling it to all of his patients and everything because he's been taking it and loving it, and so I just feel I feel like it has really helped to give me mental clarity, and you know, like as as you know, like I had a lot of concussions in a short period of time over the last few years before I stopped playing basketball. And I've I've I mean there's a lot of things that could contribute to me healing with that, but I do really believe that that was a big factor as well. Living in Hawaii, being at the beach all the time, being grounding all the time, being in nature. Um, I think that that was the biggest part of my healing, but I did feel a difference using the Zo charge. Um, I mean, it doesn't really have a flavor or taste. It's really easy to take. And the things that came out of my body, the like I am very happy that they're still not in there.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

So yeah. Yeah, it's always some some the stuff that comes out sometimes is like surprising to people because like where like oh how'd that get in there?

SPEAKER_00 47:18

And why was Yeah, like how is there that much in there? First of all, and that's the other thing is that my stomach is so much flatter now, and that was something that I was struggling with. Um, I was struggling with this, which I was just talking up to perimenopause and like having this big lower part of my stomach and not being able to get rid of it. And so now, you know, like it's almost back to normal. And I'm sure like it is partly hormonal and like other stuff, but it's it's probably like half as bad as it was before. So I'm very happy about that.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

And I just need the now, I just need the zeo wrap.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm interested to see kind of what that does for people's stomach as well in combo with the Zoo charge. But yes, you can let me know. Maybe we'll have to do a part two and you can be like your experience with the Zo wrap.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

But yes, a before and after.

unknown 48:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

So you've tried other binders as well. Like, do you think do the other binders, do they help you, or do you just didn't really notice much, or just like how do you compare zoo charge? When people are like, well, I don't need to take Zo charge because I'm taking, I'm already taking, you know, charcoal or clay or something. Like, what would you say to that?

SPEAKER_00 48:31

Well, I would say, you know, like you gotta be careful with taking binders a lot, right? Because they are gonna bind to everything, like all of your minerals and everything are gonna leave, well, not all, but you know, it's gonna take the good stuff out with the bad stuff as well. So that was the thing that really gave me the confidence to be able to take it as much as I wanted, the Zo charge, as much as I wanted, because I wasn't gonna have to worry about losing my good minerals. And so that was just like a huge factor. Plus, I think the biggest thing that sold me, because I've heard about zeolites for so many years, and I also heard that it was tainted with lead, or you know, like there were things that weren't so great about it that they discovered, and then all these different companies have it. So who do you even pick? And there's different forms, there's tinctures, there's powders, you know, everything. But when we met, and I literally saw your face and heard your story and see like the genuine happiness in your eyes, like that sold me more than anything, and like hearing your process of refining it and making sure that it's the best, and then taking it and feeling that happiness myself, like that was amazing, and that's not something that like you can quantify, right? That that's a qualifying factor, but that the feeling of happiness, and I think that that's the feeling of not having an overburdened liver, right? Because the liver is going to create rage inside of us or discomfort or dis-ease inside of us in our personality. So I have MTHFR and MTRR mutations. So I have to make sure that I'm not having gluten, I'm not having folic acid, I'm, you know, like different forms of my V, my B bitis, my methylated forms, I have to have that, like my magnesium, my zinc, all of that. Um, so it's easy for me to have a sluggish liver or to overburden my liver. And this has made that so much easier for me to the point to where I found myself cheating more on my diet. So, and not having the results and like thinking like, oh, I I there was gluten in this and I didn't realize, oh, no problem, I'll just take some extra zeolite tonight and I'll be fine. You know, it was like it takes away the other stuff so that my liver is not super stressed by something else, you know. It's been great.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

That's amazing. We should, yeah, we could rename it the happy powder. Happy powdery. Happy powder cheat cheat code. Happy powder cheat code. Yes. Um cool. So let's wrap it up a little bit here. Why don't we s why don't you tell us? I'll put you on the spot here. Is there one thing in the natural health community right now that is annoying you? Like something trending on socials, or just something that you think is so overhyped that it's maybe leading people in the wrong direction or it's not gonna live up to uh all the the hype?

SPEAKER_00 51:51

Probably okay, so taking it back to nature, I think that um the thing is like people kind of don't want to change like their lifestyle, they just want things to be done passively for them, and that's not like a product or something or a trend or whatever, just in general. Um like people ask me all the time, like, how do you stay so young? Because I just turned 47, you know, I'm still very active, I'm still fit, I'm still, you know, people are shocked when I tell them my age. So I I I feel young. I don't feel 47. I feel like I'm in my early 30s or something like that, you know, and and um people so people are always asking me, like, how do I stay young? Like, what do you do? What do you eat? What do you do? You know, it's like it's it's a whole lifestyle that you have to be willing to change from like your soaps to your detergents to whatever. And I think that people are looking for like this one device or like this one product that's gonna do everything for them, like, and they need like these instant results within like two weeks or something like that, or they're giving up and it doesn't work. That's my biggest pet peeve with like the natural stuff, is that people say that it doesn't work because they don't realize that nothing happens in a vacuum, that everything is it it's like a collaboration of all the different things that you're doing. Like you can't go eat McDonald's and then come and say, Oh, but I'm doing XYZ and think that you're gonna feel okay. Like, so yeah, I think people give up way too easily and blame a product like for not working when they're not willing to like do the other things or like give up the other things.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

No, it's perfect. I think I think it's kind of partly like brainwashing or a transition from the mainstream system because people are used to like not having to sacrifice any lifestyle, anything with their lifestyle, and they want to just take something to make everything better, and like that's you know, kind of what they've been promised with drugs. But with when they start to get into the natural world, they're like, Well, I'm just gonna keep doing all this stuff I'm doing, which is terrible for my lifestyle, but I'm going to just take this natural supplement. And if they don't feel better, they're like, it didn't work for me. And it's like, well, that's that's not exactly that's not how it works. It happens all the time, not all the time, but a lot of people will reach out and they've taken Zocharge for four days, and they're like, Hey, I need to return this because the product didn't work for me. I'm like, What do you mean it didn't work for you? Like, what do you try what do you want it to do for you in four days? It's like it's like, okay, it's fine. But it's just it's just that same mentality, like you're saying. So I think that's that's a really good answer. It's it's um yeah, that's good. So all right, now on the other end, what is one thing that um, or what is there any wisdom or advice or anything you want to share that could be potentially helpful for someone that is kind of starting their health journey, or maybe something that if you could go back that you would have done differently? Just something to help people out.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

Um, yeah, I guess like now that my kids are getting a little bit older and they're like in their prime childbearing years, you know, um, I think a lot about when I was pregnant with them, like all the things that I would have done differently had I known what I know now. And everything regarding like the keeping your placenta, having it desiccated and put into capsules so that you could like take those as supplements after the baby is born. Um just maybe like even eating organs during during your pregnancy so that the placenta could be very oxygen and blood rich and have vital nutrients. Um not letting them do unnecessary C-section by inducing you early and then you not dilating and effacing fast enough, and then they have to send you in into an emergency C-section so that they could take the placenta and sell it for more because it's not had a vaginal birth and it's very intact and you know, not clamping the cord. Like these are the things that are in my mind a lot, and that's a little bit outside my niche. But I think as I'm like transitioning into of my thinking about my future role, that so my older daughter is 23 in July. Um, I was pregnant with her at 23, I had her at 24, so I think that that's why my mind is shifting a little bit to I could be grandma at any time. Like it could it could happen at any time, even though I would like to have a son, I would still like to have another child. I literally could be a grandma at any time, you know, within the next couple of years. And so I'm thinking about all the things that I would do differently. And then, of course, like the way that the husband's health matters so much as to how the pregnancy is gonna be based upon the quality of his health and his sperm. So there are just so many things that I would love to pass on to like that age now. That I think that's my focus because that's the age that my children are going into, and that's gonna be like their life milestones coming up. Um yeah, I would say get with get with the the the older, like the late 40s, early 50s practitioners and just that that you can work with and and just glean from their wisdom. Because at this point, like we have been through things, we've experienced them firsthand, and now like with our knowledge, we're able to see like what we could have done better and what we could have done differently. So I think like I'm at an age and at a point in my life to where I have so much to teach and so much to give the younger generation. So I'm looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

Yeah, that's awesome. All right, so this was fantastic. I appreciate the time. Always great to see you for anyone that wants to follow you, your story, your journey, where can they find you? And then um, where are you located? So if someone wants to work with you in person, they can reach out as well.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

Yeah, so you anybody can reach out um on Instagram and dr.sharine uh c e or e-n-e. And you can just message me there. Um I might not get back to you right away, but um, I don't really have a phone number to call because I mostly work off of referral only, but anybody can reach out through DMs, that's fine. And um I work my my clinic is called Anatomy Lab LA. It's in Woodland Hills, and it's very beautiful out there. Um yeah, so just send me a DM and and we can talk and and set up an appointment for you.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

All right, fantastic, and I'll get that in the show notes as well so people can uh check that out or click the link or whatever for the for the Instagram page for the DM. So awesome, this was so much fun, always a pleasure, and I look forward to next time. Thanks for coming on.

SPEAKER_00 59:36

Thank you, Jeff.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

Alright, I need to figure out how to shut this thing off. How do I stop it? There we go.